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Cheryl Milliken: Only a Few Days Left, August 7, 2025

NOAA Teacher at Sea

Cheryl Milliken

Aboard NOAA Ship Oregon II

July 25 – August 10, 2025

Mission: Bottom Longline Survey, Leg 1

Geographic Area of Cruise: Atlantic Coast of Florida

Date: August 7, 2025

Weather Data from the Bridge

Latitude: 32° 37.7′ N

Longitude: 078° 34.0′ W

Wind speed: 13 kts

Wave height: 2-3 ft

Air temp.: 28.5°C (Water temp. Is 28.7° C!)

Sky: BKN (broken cloud cover, meaning between 5/8 and 7/8 of the sky is covered by clouds)

Science and Technology Log

Yesterday the most exciting part of our watch was catching a spinner shark, a new species for me. Henry Legett, a volunteer on the other watch, is on the cruise to implant acoustic tags into any spinner or blacktip sharks we catch on this leg. Henry had to race out to the deck in order to perform this procedure.

top down view of a shark in a teal mesh cradle suspended over the water. two crewmembers in hard hats and life vests are nearby; one crew member raising his arm perhaps to signal someone

close up view of a hand holding a black metal object about three inches long

two crewmembers wearing life vests, hard hats, and gloves lean over a shark in the cradle

Photos, L to R: Spinner shark in cradle (photo courtesy of the Bridge). Acoustic tag that is now implanted into spinner shark. Henry Legett tying closing sutures on spinner shark.

At the beginning of our watch today we finished Station 38, and we are hoping to complete 46 stations during this leg before landing in Miami, FL. We aim for 5-6 stations per day, but sometimes the steam (distance to travel) between stations is long, and during this leg we had to avoid some weather (the tropical depression that was later named Dexter). Summer in this region of the Atlantic Ocean can be threatened by hurricane activity, so I would expect that this survey is used to working around weather.

At our first station, we had a small catch, but it is always exciting. I was able to tag another 2 meter long (6.6 feet) sandbar shark hauled up in the cradle. I had trouble cutting the fin for genetic testing, but Field Party Chief Trey helped me out. We also caught a small spotted eel (that was wrapped around the line) and a shark sucker. I am glad we were able to get a good look at the sharksucker. Apparently there are two species of sharksucker, and you have to count the number of grooves in the sucker in order to identify (the one we observed had 24).

three crewmembers in hard hats, life vests, and work gloves work together to measure a large shark in a teal mesh cradle

while two other crewmembers steady the shark, Cheryl, wearing a hard hat, life vest, and gloves, readies to insert a tag

view of a sharksucker being held up for a photo

Photos, L to R: Trey, Cheryl, and Josh measure the sandbar shark for pre-caudal length, fork length, and total length. Cheryl inserts spaghetti tag into skin of sandbar shark. Scientists rely on the return of these tags to get information on growth and migration between tagging and recapture.

But then, we hit the mother lode! On the next station, we caught a shark that Trey Driggers, the chief scientist, has not seen in decades: an adult night shark. Gretchen and I took photos and videos to document the catch, while Trey and the fishermen measured, tagged, and took a fin clip of the female. As soon as she was lifted, Trey was teaching us about night sharks: “see how long the snout is and how big the eye is?” My pictures show Trey also removed and preserved parasitic copepods from her body to send to Ash Bullard, a parasitologist in Illinois, to identify. Based on scratches on her back, Trey said that she had recently mated. We feel privileged to have been a part of this catch. We knew it was a big deal when Trey got excited!

straight-on view of a shark in a teal mesh cradle suspended above the ocean surface

straight-on view of a shark in a teal mesh cradle suspended above the ocean surface; its large mouth is open

close up view over Trey's shoulder has he uses what might be pliers to pull something (a parasite) off the skin of a shark in the mesh cradle

Night shark in cradle. Night shark in cradle with mouth open. Chief Scientist Trey Driggers removing parasitic copepods from night shark for preservation and future identification.

Interview with Matt Kupiec

portrait view of a man in a gray hard hat, orange life vest, and blue and white fish gloves. he smiles and flashes two thumbs up for the camera. in the distance, we see very cloudy gray skies and a sliver of gray water.

view down a set of stairs. at the base is a cement floor with buckets, a shop vacuum, and a trash can that is decorated to look like R2D2. there are also footprint sticker on the floor, and someone has drawn the outline of a body.

Photos, L to R: Second Assistant Engineer Matt Kupiec immediately following his first time tagging a shark on the bottom longline survey. View from main deck down into the Engine Room, where engineers spend their work time on the vessel. I was most taken by the body outline on the floor because I teach forensic science at my high school.

NOAA Ship Oregon II, as does every ship, needs people on board to make sure everything is running smoothly, from a mechanical standpoint. Five engineers help to make that happen: Chief Marine Engineer Joe Howe, 1^st Assistant Engineer Nate Durbin, 2^nd Assistant Engineer Matt Kupiec, Junior Engineer James “MacDaddy” McDade, and oiler Mike Fountain (who has been assisting the day watch with fishing on this leg).

Matt has been working on NOAA Ship Oregon II for a year this week (he started right around his birthday, which is coming up again this weekend!). Engineers in this job with NOAA generally work 2 months on followed by one month off. He will be off for the next leg of this cruise, which is about three weeks, so he will have time to fly home to Ashland, MA, where he shares a place with his brother.

I am most interested in Matt’s experience because he graduated from Massachusetts Maritime Academy (MMA), which is in my home town. At least three of my students last year are enrolling at MMA for marine engineering, so I am curious about their future. I know MMA claims a 99% employment rate following graduation, which is incredible.

How did you find out about your major?

“My cousin’s boyfriend went there and told me about it. He said engineers make a lot of money. My brother joined the Navy, and this is like the next step down. I chose marine engineering because I had never been on a boat before. The TS (Training Ship) Kennedy was my first love. I went out on a couple of sea terms (a period of time when maritime academy students gain hands-on experience on a ship) after graduating. They called me the maintenance hero because I was always on the ship. In my senior year I was Cadet Chief Engineer, which was a lot of work. It was a great experience, though. I was responsible for hundreds of kids as a kid. It would have been great for my hiring possibilities, but I came out at a tough time.”

What do you do as an engineer on a ship?

“We are responsible for the plant, or the engine room. We make sure the boilers, pumps, HVAC, hydraulics, and electrical are all functioning. Oregon II is an older ship, so you can see the mechanical parts of her. Newer ships have a lot more electronics, and it’s harder to find a faulty circuit board or something on them.”

What else have you done with your degree?

“My first job was on a cruise ship (Celebrity Summit) that sailed under foreign flag [owned by someone outside the United States]. That ship could take 5000 people out. I have seen every island in the Caribbean! I had a five month contract with them, and then a four month contract. Then a friend told me how much he was making on a US ship… I was the only US engineer in the fleet. I made $8000 a month as opposed to my friend making $20K per month plus benefits. I bounced around different jobs and then found AMO (American Maritime Officers union) about 5-6 years ago. I sailed all around the world moving cargo, working 4-5 months at a time, then had 4-5 months of vacation. During COVID I stopped sailing, took a break and worked at Sea World in San Diego [maintaining pumps and plants]. I had another shoreside job as lead building engineer for Lincoln Properties in Cambridge, MA, keeping science buildings running, but the commute was an hour each way and I was a slave to my cell phone, nights and weekends after working all week.”

How did you learn to SCUBA dive?

“NOAA invited me to be on the SCUBA Diving Team. I took an open water course and dive school in Seattle in dry suits (43° F!).

“I like working for NOAA because of the stability, and there’s less turnover. Oregon II is my first NOAA ship. Nate Durbin, the 1^st Engineer, also went to MMA, so he was able to ask around to find out about me. This is only the third vessel I’ve stayed on for more than three trips. It’s a small boat, but the crew is awesome. Here everyone gets together outside of work. It’s a family atmosphere. I’m going diving on a shipwreck with some of the guys when we are off in Miami. It’s nice working on a ship based on science rather than moving cargo.”

Interview with Chuck Godwin

portrait of a man standing in front of a banner. he wears a suit and tie, but also a beanie. this image has been cropped out of a larger group photo; we see the cut-off arm of someone standing to his right. — *Chuck Godwin present in February 2024 to receive Department of Commerce Gold Medal Award on behalf of* Oregon II crew, who aided a vessel that was taking on water in 2022.

I had the pleasure of learning more about Chuck Godwin, the lead fisherman on NOAA Ship Oregon II. Chuck (Charles Scott) has been working on Oregon II since July 2000. When I looked up “Oregon II” on the internet, I found a photo of Chuck in a suit receiving the Department of Commerce Gold Medal in February 2024 after he and crewmates saved a vessel in distress (it was taking on water) in November 2022 (look it up!). He was excited to share his personal story with us.

Chuck has four kids: two girls and two boys, ages 19-34, and three grandchildren who all live in Alabama. Chuck currently lives in Milton, FL, about two hours from Pascagoula, MS, where the ship is docked when not at sea. In his off time, Chuck likes to play guitar and harmonica, karaoke, kayak, hike, and go off-roading in his Jeep. He also likes reading and writing short stories and poetry, or trying to (but he will not share his writing with me).

What training have you had for this job?

“I graduated from the University of Florida (UF) with a degree in Wildlife Management and Ecology. I wanted to work for the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission or any nearby State Fish and Game Department. I couldn’t find a job in that field after I graduated, so I joined the U.S. Coast Guard and served 10 years, where I did Fisheries Enforcement and Search and Rescue. After separating from the military, I applied for a job with NOAA and found work on the Oregon 2 and have been here ever since.

I enjoy my work when underway, the shark cruise, especially. The people, boat, and various surveys have kept me around. The great white [shark] is my ‘dream catch.’”

When did you know you wanted to pursue a career near the ocean, or in science?

“I decided in high school. I grew up in, around, and under the water. I was raised in Florida and lived in Panama (the country) when I was 10-14 years old, and I became a certified scuba diver at age 12. I got to go back to Panama for a summer internship when I was in college, doing field work in biodiversity.”

If you could invent any tool to make your work more efficient and cost were no object, what would it be and why?

“Robots to do this! Have you seen the robots that are out now? It’s only going to get more advanced and sophisticated. I could stand by and supervise….lol.”

Personal Log

I am getting ready to go home. This trip has been amazing, but it is also the longest time I have been away from my family, I know my pets and gardens are in good hands with my husband, Henry, but it’s time to go back and help out. Our beehives, in particular, need to be examined. I am hopeful the bees found some summersweet to tide them over.

Did You Know?

Sharksuckers, from the Remora family of fishes, do not hurt sharks when they are attached. Their first dorsal fin is modified into a series of plates that form a suction pad to hitch a ride on sharks, turtles, whales, or other large marine creatures. They get a free ride and can eat the leftover scraps from their ride’s meal.

Animals seen since last blog:

Octopus! I saw three (or perhaps the same one, three times?) wrapped around the baited hook as it came up.

Spinner shark

Sharksucker

Red grouper

Night shark!

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Dorothy Holley: The Driver’s Seat!? August 6, 2025

NOAA Teacher at Sea

Dorothy Holley

Aboard NOAA Ship Pisces

July 31 – August 15, 2025

Mission: Northeast Ecosystem Monitoring Survey (EcoMon)

Geographic Area of Cruise: Northwest Atlantic Ocean

Blog Post #4: August 6, 2025

Weather Data from Bridge:
Latitude: 43^o20.065’ N
Longitude: 067^o11.122’ W
Relative Wind speed: 6
Wind Direction: 66
Air Temperature: 19.6
Sea Surface Temperature: 16.91
Barometric Pressure: 1029.76
Speed over ground: 9.3
Water Conductivity: 4.13
Water Salinity: 32.04

Dolphins on the bow!

First, A blog-reader reader emailed to ask me why they put tennis balls on the chairs in the mess hall. Their guess was that it keeps the chairs from sliding. What do you think? Should I ask the captain? Thanks for reading and asking questions!

portrait photo of Dorothy, wearing a sweatshirt, very large orange work overalls, and a swim vest. she stands on a narrow side deck of NOAA Ship Pisces, one hand on the rail and one hand on her hip. — *After a CTD collection, Dorothy watches the sunset*

view of the bridge room of NOAA Ship Pisces: we see control panels with monitors and displays, a chart table in the center, and a line of windows surrounding the room. — The BRIDGE: where the driving happens……

Second, an answer to the math problem from the last blog: If I filtered water from 3 CTD Rosette bottles for 12-minute protocols at 100 stops, then I would spend 2.5 days just on that project. (Yes, I could spend a fraction of a day on a project.)

Science at Sea: This Summer EcoMon cruise is collecting data that will be analyzed to support NOAA’s mission to protect, restore and manage the use of living marine, coastal, and ocean resources through ecosystem-based management. Our planned path through the northwest Atlantic Ocean, from Rhode Island to Cape Hatteras to the Gulf of Maine, is shown in the map below. NOAA Ship Pisces is a floating weather station, reporting temperature and weather data (available on the Windy app).

a map of the station locations. the x axis ranges from 76 degrees West to 64 degrees West and the y axis ranges from 35 degrees north to 45 degrees north. We see the coastline from North Carolina's Outer Banks to Newfoundland. sample locations are marked with blue dots (bongo only stations), red dots (911 + CTD deployments) and red dots with black circles (both). A few green dots denote bongo sampling locations near wind energy areas.

Once we embarked, NOAA Corp members and Scientists evaluated weather data to determine it was preferable to go north before heading south. So, we are now in the Gulf of Maine, one of the most biologically productive marine ecosystems and possibly one of the most rapidly warming.

Unique bathymetry (that’s topography, but under water) of the area is shaped by the mixing of cool freshwater from the Arctic, the Labrador Current, and over 60 Nova Scotia to Cape Cod rivers with warmer salty Gulf Stream currents. Referred to as a semi-enclosed sea, the Gulf of Maine has shallow and deep areas such as the Bay of Fundy and Georges Shelf. As our polar ice cap melts, the Labrador Current and the more-shallow rivers become warmer. Warming temperatures strengthen the Gulf Stream. The “bath tub” effect for the Gulf of Maine translates to warming at nearly three times the global ocean average. (Read more about the Gulf of Maine and Acadia National Park’s 60 miles of coastline and 18 islands in the U.S. National Park Service here )

We have had to maneuver around humpback whales and tons of lobster pots to reach our stops and collect data that will better help scientists understand and manage this important ecosystem. But when we talk about how fast we are going, those steering the ship use the unit of “knots” instead of mph. Why?!

screenshot of Google maps from Dorothy's phone showing the current location: the blue dot surrounded by solid blue (which is how the ocean appears on Google maps)

Screenshot Photos of Dorothy’s phone: Google Maps isn’t very helpful in the ocean!

Interesting Things: Mariners (and aviators) don’t have road maps or Google maps to steer them. They must navigate using latitude and longitude readings, based on the circumference of the earth. One nautical mile is equivalent to one minute of latitude, and one nautical mile per hour is then called one knot. NOAA Ship Pisces cruises at around 8 knots between stops. My land-based brain is still trying to convert!

On the bridge, our NOAA Corps is constantly figuring out speed, time, and distance problems to make sure the Pisces is getting where it needs to be on time, or how we’ll pass with another vessel. LT Urquhart posts the stations for the following day in our “Plan for the Day” Communication.

You do the Math: If 1 knot = 1.15 mph, how long (in hours) will it take us to get to the next stop, 15 miles away? Remember, the ship is traveling at 8 knots. Check in the next blog post for the answer.

Career Spotlight

LT Karina Urquhart

LT Karina Urquhart is a part of the Ship’s NOAA Corps. In other words… She gets to DRIVE THE SHIP! (NOAA Ship Pisces currently has seven NOAA Corps officers, collectively called the Wardroom.) A fascination with the ocean and a strong work ethic developed through years of competitive swimming propelled her into this role. Growing up in Sanford, Maine, she began swimming in elementary school. While she appreciated the access to deep family roots, her mom also grew up in Sanford, she chose to leave Maine to attend college and continue swimming. (She didn’t especially enjoy academic studies, but figured the classes would take care of themselves. Right?)

Graduating from Clark University in Massachusetts with a degree in Environmental Science Conservation Biology and a minor in Studio Art, LT Urquhart returned to Maine summer beach lifeguarding and then found a USDA Pathways Internship in Washington, DC. The lifeguarding and internship experiences, especially spending 8-hour shifts with a colleague observing ocean currents and movements, set the stage for her NOAA Corp Basic Officer Training Class (BOTC) application. Once accepted, she was trained in ship handling and navigation to prepare her for her role as an Officer in NOAA.

BOTC provided many opportunities to sharpen her problem solving and perseverance skills. She often said, “I can do one more week of this,” and then, at some point, it got better. Her first ship assignment was on NOAA Ship Rainier, for 2.5 years, where she conducted hydrographic operations from Alaska to Guam. LT Urquhart took the technical foundation she gained from Rainier and then rotated into a three-year land assignment at NOAA’s National Center for Coastal Ocean Science (NCCOS) where she supported seafloor and lakebed habitat mapping. While working full time, she pursued a master’s degree in Geographic Information Systems, or GIS, from the University of Maryland.

As advice for people starting a new opportunity, LT Urquhart suggests leaning into the things that scare you the most because they’ll probably help you grow the most. It’s scary for a reason. If you feel stressed or overwhelmed, she suggests doing the thing that you don’t want to do first. Sometimes you just have to get over it and sometimes you have to be the person pushing yourself. LT Urquhart credits her experiences in NOAA with helping her distinguish between the challenges she can overcome, when to ask for help, and when to take a step back.

As one of two Operations Officers on board Pisces, LT Urquhart invests in the crew and scientists on our EcoMon mission, making sure we have what we need so that our mission runs as smoothly as possible. She prints the daily “Plan of the Day” listing the stops and times we’ll be collecting samples. She begins by asking “where do I think we’ll be at midnight?” and “Is this 24 hours worth of stations + transits?”. She credits our electronics and Navigation Officer (ENS Cheney) for doing much of the leg work (and math!) for the team. One tool she says that she couldn’t live without are the RADARs– the ship’s eyes that let us see objects and hazards way further than we can actually see. I’m personally glad that she has her camera. While taking pictures is not a part of her official duties, you may have noticed I’ve posted LT Urquhart’s photos in some of my blogs.

Currently, LT Urquhart is reading The Hero Within by Carol S Pearson and On Character by Stanley McChrysal. Two books she would highly recommend are Indianapolis: The True Story of the Worst Disaster in U.S. Naval History and the Fifty-Year Fight to Exonerate an Innocent Man, by Lynn Vincent and Sara Vladic and The Curve of Time, by M. Wylie Blanchet. I enjoy reading her daily updates. Thank you for communicating so well!

Personal Log

Here are some pictures of my cabin (called a stateroom). In the last blog, I posted some amazing pictures taken by my cabinmate Alyssa. Since we are working opposite shifts, we each feel like we have a private stateroom! While I think I am the oldest person onboard, Alyssa (a college student) is the youngest. I wonder if she can share more information on NOAA scholarships, internships, and volunteer opportunities available to college-aged students? Maybe we should ask….

view into a stateroom: we see two bunkbeads with curtains, a window with the curtain drawn, a desk chair, a suitcase. — Berths

view out the stateroom window: a plastic ducky with a sailor's hat sits on the sill looking outward — Berths

Photos: Home, sweet home on NOAA Ship Pisces!

Isn’t it nice to have so many great photographers in one place? It has been said that a picture says a thousand words. Come meet a member of the science team who has published two bird books in my next blog…

Beautiful sunset over the Atlantic

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Dorothy Holley: Columns of Information, August 5, 2025

NOAA Teacher at Sea

Dorothy Holley

Aboard NOAA Ship Pisces

July 31 – August 15, 2025

Mission: Northeast Ecosystem Monitoring Survey (EcoMon)

Geographic Area of Cruise: Northwest Atlantic Ocean

Blog Post #3, August 5, 2025

Date: August 5, 2025

Weather Data from Bridge:
Latitude: 4259.65 N
Longitude: 07026.35 W
Relative Wind speed: 15
Wind Direction: 356
Air Temperature: 21.3
Sea Surface Temperature: 18.996
Barometric Pressure: 1023.4
Speed over ground: 9.9
Water Conductivity: 4.265
Water Salinity: 31.21

Sky is overcast due to the Canadian wildfires!

First, a Thank you to Pam who posted a comment to my last post. When out at sea, it is good to know someone is reading along!

Second, an answer to the math problem….. If we are out at sea for two weeks, and deploy the Bongo nets at 100 different stops, our team of scientists will deploy and collect plankton over seven times each day, and since there are two groups, we’ll each deploy and collect about 3-4 times each day. (No, we can’t do partial, or fractional, jobs!)

Dorothy, wearing a 35th anniversary Teacher at Sea sweatshirt, takes a selfie from an upper deck. the sun is starting to set in an aquamarine sky over light blue water. — *Photo: Sunset while on duty is the best!*

Science at Sea:

Over 70% of our planet’s surface contains water. While we can’t analyze every single drop, we can monitor and evaluate water quality patterns to better understand and predict changes in weather, climate, oceans, and coasts. NOAA scientists’ work supports severe weather preparedness and international shipping.

a view from farther down the rail of a CTD rosette suspended just at the water's surface; the sky and water are very gray

a view from farther down the rail of a CTD rosette suspended above the water's surface; the sky and water are very gray

a view from farther down the rail of two crewmembers wearing life vests pulling the CTD rosette back on board; the sky and water are very gray

Photos: Scientist team and Deck team work together to get CTD equipment in place. Photos by LT Karina Urquhart.

The CTD Rosette is an instrument used to collect water samples in the water column at our stops on our Ecosystem Monitoring (EcoMon) Cruise. “CTD” stands for conductivity, temperature and depth. Closer to the ocean floor, the temperature will be colder (lower) and the pressure will be higher. Conductivity describes how well electricity is being conducted and can be used to determine salinity. Taken together, salinity, temperature, and pressure influence water density, which in turn drive ocean currents and influence global climate patterns. Monitoring salinity and temperature patterns helps us better understand marine life distribution and predict changes in our planet’s water cycle.

The CTD Rosette also has oxygen sensors and a fluorometer. There are 12 Niskin bottles that open and close to collect water samples at different depths in the column. Water from three of the bottles is for a project on chlorophyll concentration. We filter water from three different depths to be examined back at the land lab. (Find out more about CTD Rosettes here.)

view of the CTD rosette resting on deck. the sky is hazy gray blue, and the water is gray. at the horizon, a few windmills are barely visible.

view of the ocean over the deck; the sky is cloudy and gray, and the water is gray. at the horizon, a few windmills are barely visible.

CTD Rosette waiting for the next stop. Do you see the windmills?!

You do the Math: If I filtered water from 3 CTD Rosette bottles at each of our 100 stops, and it takes 12 minutes to run the protocol to filter each bottle, then how much time (in days) would I spend on the project? Check in the next blog post for the answer.

Interesting Things: There are no landfills in the ocean. So what happens to our waste?! After every meal we scrape our food waste into a bucket and our paper and plastic waste into another bucket. Plates, cups, bowls, and silverware are washed for the next meal. The food waste is pulverized and dumped into the ocean to biodegrade. The other bucket’s waste is incinerated onboard.

Career Spotlight:

portrait view of Santanna on deck. He is wearing black work gloves, a life vest, and a yellow hardhat. We can see part of a bongo plankton net on deck behind him. The sky is a muted blue, cloudless; the ocean is blue and very calm. — Santanna Dawson, professional mariner

Santanna Dawson has been a part of the deck department on NOAA Ship Pisces for the last year and a half. His team is responsible for everything deck – docking, undocking, equipment, cargo, operations, maintenance, painting, repairing, and even security rounds (in case something comes loose and starts rolling around in the night). He ensures the science experiments actually happen by getting the equipment safely in place.

Santanna speaks with a Gullah Geechee dialect, a mixture of creole and low county charm. And even though he grew up around the ocean in South Carolina, his plan was to follow in his father’s footsteps by joining the Air Force. A car accident after graduation snapped his femur in half, changing everything. Santanna began his career with little knowledge of the maritime industry, working his way up from entry level with training (earning a spot at a maritime school in San Diego) and persistence.

One tool Santanna says he can’t live without is a hammer. A tool he doesn’t have yet is a Bluetooth screw driver. The next book on his reading list is Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins.

Santanna was one of the first people I met on the ship, and he made me feel right at home. How is that? It wasn’t the obvious southern drawl (he sounds more Senegalese!) but the fact that Santana recently lived in Knightdale, NC, my hometown! He knows about the beautiful Knightdale Station Park and his son attended Knightdale High School. As my mom would say, it really is a small world!

Personal Log: It is joyful to get to “do science” every day! Today I saw pilot whales on the flying bridge with binoculars and a fish egg in the lab with a microscope. I hope you get to experience some joy today, too!

close up view of a tiny sea star in a plankton sieve — Sea star

top down view of a sieve filled with small jellyfish — Sea star

Photos by my cabin mate, Alyssa Rauscher

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Cheryl Milliken: Sharks off South Carolina, August 3, 2025

NOAA Teacher at Sea

Cheryl Milliken

Aboard NOAA Ship Oregon II

July 25 – August 10, 2025

Mission: Bottom Longline Survey, Leg 1

Geographic Area of Cruise: Atlantic Coast of Florida

Date: August 3, 2025

Weather Data from the Bridge (3:00 PM)

Latitude: 32° 54.4’ N

Longitude: 079° 00.3’ W

Wind speed: 18 kts.

Wave height: 1-2’

Air temp.: 28.1 C

Sky: Clouds

Science and Technology Log

To date, we have caught, tagged, and fin-clipped silky, sharpnose, sandbar, tiger, great hammerhead, blacknose, nurse, and scalloped hammerhead sharks. We have also brought up red snappers, a pale spotted eel, and a blunt-nose lizardfish. I have never seen any of these fishes before, so it has opened a whole new world of sea creatures for me. I am grateful to have this opportunity to explore a region of the ocean with which I am unfamiliar.

view of a scalloped hammerhead shark lying on it ventral side (belly) in a teal mesh shark cradle suspended over the water. a crewmember, mostly out of frame, reaches two arms over the ship's railing to steady the shark.

top-down view from an upper deck of crewmembers standing near the rail as a teal mesh shark cradle rises out of the water, holding a large tiger shark

a man wearing blue gloves, standing on deck and facing away from the camera, holds out a large red-orange fish by the operculum (opening behind the jaw)

straight on view of a hammerhead shark's head; the shark is suspended in the teal mesh cradle, and two gloved hands hold up its head to prepare to remove the hook

Cheryl, wearing a sunhat, a hard hat on top of the sunhat, and a life vest, kneels on deck. with two gloved hands, she holds up a small sharpnose shark and smiles for a photo.

Top row: Scallloped hammerhead shark in mesh cradle; Large tiger shark being hoisted by crane and cradle to be processed alongside the ship (photo courtesy NOAA Corps officer on the bridge); Field Party Chief and PI Trey Driggers lifting red snapper onto cutting table to remove otoliths and eye lenses. Bottom row: Face of scalloped hammerhead shark prior to removal of circle hook; I am holding a sharpnose shark after measuring and fin-clipping it. (Photo by Gretchen Kruizenga).

Personal Log

Living on a ship is much different than living on land. Obviously, we’re on a moving vessel, so the scenery and location are different every time we wake up. As soon as the mooring lines were cast off, we had no access to shopping for anything that we might have forgotten…

One major change from when I was last aboard a ship 25 years ago is the internet. Thanks to a satellite connection through Starlink, I can now stream movies, call my husband, and scroll through Facebook — even miles from shore. It’s strange but comforting to feel connected to the outside world while being so physically remote.

Our living quarters are compact and communal. On the main deck where we fish, there’s a toilet and sink, while the lower deck — where we sleep — has two water closets with an adjacent sink. Each stateroom also has a small sink, which makes washing up and brushing teeth a bit easier. For showers, we have two shared ones for the entire crew, so we limit ourselves to ten-minute showers to make sure everyone gets a turn and can get to bed soon after their shift.

Before leaving port, the crew was split into two watches: day watch (12 noon to midnight) and night watch (midnight to noon). Most staterooms house two people on opposite watches, so the person off duty has the room to themselves while the other works. Unfortunately, our bunks are located just below the deck where the fishing line is hauled in, so it gets quite noisy. Sleep is something we grab when we can, knowing it may be disrupted by the sound of the winch or the motion of high seas. I’m on day watch, so my schedule feels more natural — but for those on night watch, sleeping during daylight and staying alert all night is a real challenge.

Yesterday we also launched the second drifter. This one had Falmouth High School stickers, of course, but also the crew of NOAA Ship Oregon II wrote their names, drew, or wrote favorite quotes. It was fun to get everyone on the ship involved in this project! The track of Drifter #1 appears to be keeping up with the ship!

close up view of the buoy, shaped like a large fiberglass beach ball. the bottom half is blue and the top half is white, and decorated. We see a sticker of a lobster (mvyradio.org), a school sticker (for Falmouth Clippers), and some handwritten quotes and signatures. — Drifter #2 with quotes from crew

close up view of the buoy, shaped like a large fiberglass beach ball. the bottom half is blue and the top half is white, and decorated. We see some school stickers (for Falmouth Clippers), and some handwritten quotes and signatures, and a drawing of a shark near the seabed. — Drifter #2 with quotes from crew

Cheryl, wearing her Teacher at Sea t shirt, a life vest, and sunglasses, poses for a photo on deck next to the drifting buoy, currently curled up and resting on a table surface. — I am preparing to launch Drifter #2 from fantail

map of sea surface temperature by geographic location as measured by the first drifting buoy. measurements are depicted as squares, color coded by temperature, ranging from 28 degrees Celsius (purple) to 32 degrees Celsius (red); most of the readings are green, which corresponds to 30 degrees C. the measurements start east of Florida and extend north along the Gulf Stream toward North Carolina. — I am preparing to launch Drifter #2 from fantail

Interview with Trey Driggers

Trey, wearing a life vest and work gloves, stands on deck with his right hand on the rail of the ship and his left resting on a white barrel lined with circle hooks. Behind him, the sky is blue with many gray clouds, and the water is blue-gray with some chop. — Dr. Trey Driggers hauling in hooks during our longline survey.

Trey Driggers is the PI, or principal investigator, of the Southeast Fisheries Science Center Bottom Longline (BLL) Survey. He originally wanted to be a musician playing guitar, but his father said that if he went to military school first, he would pay for college. That seemed like a good deal, so he completed an associate’s degree at Valley Forge Military Academy in Wayne, PA, then continued for a BA in History from Clemson University.

Trey imagined being a lawyer, but he was always interested in sharks. His fascination with large predators was driven after his childhood dog was eaten by an alligator in his grandparents’ yard in Florida. He was 8 years old when the movie Jaws came out, and although he was too young to see it, he was intrigued by all the shark-related merchandise that was on the shelves at that time. During his senior year in college, scientists from the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of Natural History released a book entitled, Sharks in Question: The Smithsonian Answer Book. The last section was entitled, “How Do I Become a Shark Specialist?” He read that and thought, “That’s a job?” His career goals dramatically changed; now he realized that he could be a shark biologist. After graduating from Clemson, he enrolled in the courses needed to earn another degree in Marine Science. Once Trey had this focus, he became a straight A student. He finished that program in two years.

After finishing his coursework in marine science, Trey applied for graduate school and was accepted into Dr. John Dean’s lab at the University of South Carolina. Dr. Dean was very supportive of his students and is considered one of the godfathers of otoliths, studying ear stones of finfish to determine their age. Trey’s master’s thesis was on the age and growth of yellowfin tuna. Dr. Dean convinced him to stay in that lab to complete his PhD, as well. Part of his research on blacknose sharks required him to collect fin clips from sharks for a genetic study which was done in part on the Southeast Fisheries Science Center’s Bottom Longline Survey, which solidified his desire to work for the National Marine Fisheries Service. He has been participating in this survey since 1999. The rest is history!

Tell me about your family:

“We live in Ocean Springs, MS. My wife is a biology teacher in middle school. We met at USC and are both Clemson Tigers. We’ve been married for 26 years and have three children: Amelia is a biomedical engineer; Boyd is a junior at Ole Miss; and Max is a senior in high school. We have a malinois dog named Lilah and a chihuahua named Oliver.”

How did you get your position at NOAA Fisheries?

“In 2002 I was still a post-doc, but I went to the Resource Surveys Branch Chief at the Pascagoula lab three separate times to ask for a job. I think I finally wore him down and was hired in 2003. In 2012, I became the Shark Unit Leader. Kristin Hannan is my right-hand partner, and Will Tilley complements us both to make a solid team.”

What is the most fun part of your job?

“There are many fun parts of my job. My coworkers and I are very close, and it’s great being around people who have the same interests. I get to see things very few people get to see and I feel very fortunate to have access to the resources that allow me to conduct broad scale research. When I retire, I will know I did exactly what I set out to do and will have achieved my professional goals.”

What is the most difficult part of your job?

“I miss important family events such as birthdays, first days of school, etc. The good definitely outweighs the bad, though. Our work helps conservation and fishermen. I feel it’s critical to have boots on the ground when conducting research and in my field there is only one place to do that and that is on the water.”

What part of your job with NOAA did you least expect to be doing?

“I least expected the Deepwater Horizon disaster. When that happened, we were told, ‘You’re now forensic biologists,’ and our jobs changed significantly for a time. It was a big adjustment, and a massive effort by many, many people.”

What would you be doing if you didn’t work for NOAA?

“I’ve thought about that a lot and don’t have a good answer. I do play my guitar 3-4 hours per day, though, and would try to do something with that.”

Did You Know?

Scientists have identified ten different species of hammerhead sharks. We are fortunate to have caught two different species so far!

New Animals Seen:

Scalloped hammerhead shark
Pale spotted eel
Decorator crab
Semipalmated plover

out of focus view of a small shorebird walking on a gray surface — Semipalmated plover
(courtesy of Lila Xenakis)

a decorated crab photographed splayed out against a blue surface; we can see some seaweed stuck to it — Decorator crab

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Cheryl Milliken: Fish On! August 1, 2025

NOAA Teacher at Sea

Cheryl Milliken

Aboard NOAA Ship Oregon II

July 25 – August 10, 2025

Mission: Bottom Longline Survey, Leg 1

Geographic Area of Cruise: Atlantic Coast of Florida

Date: August 1, 2025 (11:00 AM)

Weather Data from the Bridge

Latitude: 30° 30.1’N

Longitude: 081° 12.6′ W

Wind speed: 10 kts.

Wave height: 0-1 ft.

Air temp.: 31.5° C (89° F)

Sky: Clear

Science and Technology Log

“Fish on!” is what is called out whenever we have a fish on a hook. Everyone springs into action to collect data on the fish as efficiently as possible so it has a better chance of surviving. Their success is evidenced by the number of shark tags that have been returned after this release. Wednesday we caught a large female tiger shark that had been tagged by scientists out of the Apex Predators Program out of the NOAA Fisheries Narragansett lab. Here is a link to the work they conduct in that lab: https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/new-england-mid-atlantic/atlantic-highly-migratory-species/northeast-shark-research. We are awaiting information about the tagged individual (where and when it was tagged, how much it has grown since she was tagged) from scientists in Narragansett.

NOAA Fisheries has been conducting the Southeast Bottom Longline Survey for 30 years! Scientists and crew participating in the survey have vital scientific data on sharks and finfish in U.S. waters from Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, to the Florida Keys and through the Gulf of America.

Each year, survey stations—randomly selected before each cruise—are sampled in both shallow and deep waters. Scientists and crew use standardized fishing protocols to collect data on abundance, distribution, size, sex, and maturity of captured species. For bony fish, they also remove otoliths—tiny calcareous structures in the ear—to count growth rings and estimate age, similar to how one might age a tree.

This long-term, standardized dataset is an invaluable resource. It provides critical baseline information about marine ecosystems, which is especially important when natural disasters strike. Managers can refer to this historical data to understand pre-disaster conditions and guide recovery efforts.

Best of all, the entire database is public. Researchers, policymakers, and curious minds alike can access this wealth of information to support science-based decision-making. Learn more about the Southeast fishery-independent surveys: NOAA Fisheries Southeast Surveys.

Teamwork in Action: Skilled Crew and Augmenters Keep the Survey Moving

This leg of the Southeast Bottom Longline Survey includes several augmenters—crew members temporarily reassigned from other NOAA ships or roles to help out where they’re most needed. Their skills and experience are a welcome asset on board, especially during a time when a federal hiring freeze has led staff to pitch in across vessels.

Among the augmenters are NOAA Corps officers either in training or assisting with training, the ship’s chief steward, and members of the deck crew. Their flexibility and teamwork ensure the survey continues smoothly and safely.

a man stands on deck, feet spread apart for balance, holding up a large barracuda for a photo. we see blue skies with puffy clouds and fairly even blue water in the background beyond the rail.

portrait photo of a man in a red t-shirt wearing sunglasses and a very wide-brimmed straw hat; he leans on a railing of the deck and looks off dramatically into the distance

a man, mostly in silhouette due to the lighting, fishing off the back deck of the ship. beyond the railing is a lovely orange sunset obscured by just a few bits of cloud over dark blue waters.

Left to right: Josh with a barracuda he trolled off the stern deck; Chuck Godwin in the best hat; Sean reeling in the line at sunset.

Fishing operations on this leg are led by a capable and experienced Deck Department:

Josh Cooper, Chief Boatswain, has served on board for 3 ½ years.
Chuck Godwin, the lead fisherman, brings years of experience working aboard NOAA Ship Oregon II.
Sean Gronquist, a skilled fisherman, just celebrated his one-year anniversary on board this week.
Aaron Walton, a seasoned Lead Fisherman from NOAA Ship Bigelow out of Rhode Island, is augmenting the night watch team.
Malachi Olson, a contractor, is also supporting night operations as an augmenter.

During fishing operations, this team handles critical tasks: setting longlines, hauling them back in after one hour, and moving a specialized mesh cradle into place when large sharks are brought aboard. Their coordination and expertise are essential to ensuring the data collection is efficient, humane, and safe for both crew and animals.

Interview with Sean Gronquist

This interview is with skilled fisherman Sean Gronquist. He has been around the Atlantic Ocean his whole life, but on NOAA Ship Oregon II for a year. Growing up, Sean and his friends used to take all kinds of watercraft out into the Intracoastal Waterway around St. Augustine, FL, from a dock behind his house. He learned some basic mechanics from his friend, Jordan, who was able to fix 2-stroke engines on the fly when they were out on the water together.

Sean graduated from the University of North Florida with a degree in anthropology and a dream to be an underwater “Indiana Jones.” He earned his captain’s license and worked as a charter fishing captain for 15 years, where the focus for him was locating the target species of his clients to catch whatever they requested, if possible. Sean literally helped customers check items off their bucket list (he runs Uno Mas Fishing Charters out of Stuart, FL). He could return to this profession if he ever needed to, but for now he finds joy in working toward the important goal of figuring out how many fish are off the southeastern coast of the US.

Why is your work important?

“We collect data that is used by multiple groups to set quotas or limits on fisheries. We’re one of the longest running surveys.”

What do you enjoy most about your work?

“Even during transits, no two days are the same. Straight up, I fish for the government. The fact that I found a job that pays me to do what I’m passionate about, you can’t beat it. I learn something new every day. “

What is the most important tool that you use for your job?

“My answer is simple: a sharp pocket knife comes in handy all the time. You can cut something, open things, all sorts of uses. “

If you could invent any tool to make your work more efficient and cost were no object, what would it be and why?

“It would have to be something to keep weeds off the line, a weedless spring to remove the sargassum weed from the trolling line. We fish off the stern when we have finished all that we need to do, and it’s a pain to have to pull in the lures all the time because they’re fouled with sargassum.”

When did you know you wanted to pursue an ocean career?

“I’ve always known I wanted that. I grew up on the water, so I just needed to figure out how to make a career out of it. I did marine mechanics on Yamaha engines at a guy’s shop but realized that the owner of the shop would always make a lot more money than I would. I did finish carpentry, too, but ultimately I decided to put down a hammer and picked up a wrench.

“My great grandfather was a merchant marine, and my grandfather was a See Bee in the Navy in Okinawa in World War II. It ran in my family, so I always figured I’d end up on a ship.”

Personal Log

I am having so much fun and learning so much on this trip. It’s always nice to interact with people who are like-minded about the wonder of the ocean. We have a range of people on this leg of the cruise (it takes 4 legs to sample all of the stations and regions). Here are the people on the day watch with me:

Trey Driggers, primary investigator for the project
Gretchen Kruizenga, survey technician (Ms. Fix-It!)
Tera Winters, survey scientist (and former veterinarian)
Evan Winters, volunteer entering college at West Florida University when we return

Everyone is pulling their weight (I always feel like I need to step up a little more, but I am trying to keep up at these new tasks) and getting along well. I will try to write more about these new friends in the future.

New Animals Seen

Spotted dolphins
Cannonball jellyfish
Lion’s mane jellyfish
Tiger sharks (large and small)
Sandbar sharks
Leech on the sandbar shark
Nurse shark
Bull shark
Sharpnose shark
Great hammerhead shark! (the other watch actually saw this shark, but they showed me the pictures! We are in competition now to see who catches the next hammerhead.)
Two large red snappers!

a somewhat out of focus view of two dolphins leaping above the surface of the water; blue, mostly clear skies, bright blue water.

a woman wearing a hard hat, life vest, and gloves crouches on deck to hold a large red-orange fish against a long wooden measuring board

a woman wearing a life vest, hat, and sunglasses smiles for the camera as she stands on deck grasping a small stripey shark behind its jaws

close-up view of a marine leech against the bright blue textured background of a fish glove. the leach is blue gray with a pattern of white spots in bands.

view of the underside of a hammerhead shark's head, held back by a blue gloved hand. the shark is suspended above the water in the mesh cradle.

a hammerhead shark in the water, caught on a line, as seen over the railing.

Photos clockwise, from top left: Spotted dolphins swimming in the wake for fun; Lila holding a baby tiger shark, a favorite!; great hammerhead shark on the longline, prior to hauling up; great hammerhead in the mesh cradle being measured, sexed, and tagged; leech (size approximately 2 cm) in my glove, removed from a large sandbar shark); Tera measuring a red snapper prior to removing otoliths (estimated to be around 15 years old).

Did You Know?

Otoliths, or fish ear stones, are the densest part of a finfish’s body and are made of calcium carbonate, the same material as seashells. They are suspended in a liquid to help the fish to know which end is up and to sense vibrations.

otoliths arranged in six neat columns against a black background. the otoliths have been dyed different colors prior to sectioning.

close-up view of two cleaned otoliths resting in the fingers of someone's upturned

Left: Otoliths from six species aligned at the core and ready to be sectioned. Photo: Sandy Sutherland, NOAA Fisheries. Right: Otoliths removed by Tera from the red snapper in the previous photos.